tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1942363286851578110.post427546980515141869..comments2023-09-17T04:50:29.605-07:00Comments on C4O Democrats: Thoughts on the Two Unitiesatdnexthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18339904136472258194noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1942363286851578110.post-58242959085291600862008-07-01T06:49:00.000-07:002008-07-01T06:49:00.000-07:00Laura, welcome! Please stop by and comment any ti...Laura, welcome! Please stop by and comment any time. We diverse opinions here. This blog is about bringing people together as much as possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1942363286851578110.post-85135025665483559872008-06-29T13:30:00.000-07:002008-06-29T13:30:00.000-07:00Very good points, and I really appreciate what you...Very good points, and I really appreciate what you guys are doing with this website. I should say right off the bat that I am an Obama supporter, but I was a Deaniac in 2004 and I understand what you are going through. <BR/><BR/>The one point I disagree with is that Obama should send out an e-mail to his small donor list asking them to give to Hillary. Most of us are not maxed out to Obama, and even among the less militant Obama supporters I talk to, the sentiment is that we want all of our money that we can give to go to help Obama win the election. I know some Obama supporters, myself included, who plan to contribute to her after the election, but want to focus our resources on getting Obama elected right now. And if we are to criticize Obama for not asking his small donors to give to her, isn't it fair to point out that (to the best of my knowledge), she has not e-mailed her list asking them to give to Obama?<BR/><BR/>I do agree with you about the need for him to integrate her staff, and it looks like some progress has been made in that regard. <BR/><BR/>Again, I think this website is great, and I really appreciate what you are doing here.Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14879956492430256757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1942363286851578110.post-88438462726344481302008-06-28T19:50:00.000-07:002008-06-28T19:50:00.000-07:00Andrew--I understand your point. I respect that y...Andrew--I understand your point. I respect that you're able to work with his people so soon. For me, I need to see something tangible for I do anything other than pledge my vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1942363286851578110.post-45056233096046696352008-06-28T19:37:00.000-07:002008-06-28T19:37:00.000-07:00Redstocking-Agreed. I actually don't think Barack ...Redstocking-<BR/><BR/>Agreed. I actually don't think Barack was intentionally being sexist by mentioning "the heels". I agree with you, however, that he's pretty tone deaf on gender-related issues. Maybe even if he just consults Michelle more often before making statements like that, he'd be much better off.<BR/><BR/>Drew-<BR/><BR/>I hate repeating myself, but again... I understand, and I feel your pain. I technically shouldn't even really worry about Obama, as I'm in a reliably blue state (Cali). I guess I'm just so passionate about Barack now because I made a promise to Hillary on June 7 that I'll work as hard for him as I have for her. And I guess if Hillary can do it, I can too.<BR/><BR/>But please, don't take what I'm saying as a condemnation or some order that you "get over it". This primary has been painful for all of us Hillary Clinton Democrats, and I guess some of us may need more time to heal than others. And perhaps, all of us would appreciate more effort by the Obama campaign & the DNC to FINALLY address the misogyny used against Hillary and all of us who support her (yes, Nancy Pelosi, it did happen!!!!) AND promise to deliver the change we need to happen (on health care, trade, education, equal rights, etc.).<BR/><BR/>It would be really nice if we can soon start to see this "change we can believe in".atdnexthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18339904136472258194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1942363286851578110.post-4440699177219446082008-06-28T17:07:00.000-07:002008-06-28T17:07:00.000-07:00Andrew--Maybe because I'm here, I'm not feeling it...Andrew--Maybe because I'm here, I'm not feeling it. I'm moving to FL next month. My new Congressman lives in a safe district and there are no Senate or Gov. races. There is an anti-gay marriage amendment on the ballot, so I think I'll be working on that. Or maybe voter registration. Maybe I'll get to the point where I can wear an Obama button. Not now. Not yet.<BR/><BR/>Redstocking Grandma--Welcome aboard! I missed that line in Obama's speech. Of course, I only watched the first thirty seconds of it. I agree. They need more feminists. Do you remember when Sen. Edwards commented on Hillary's jacket during the primary? So insulting. I don't think he was intentionally being sexist, but he was definitely being careless. In my opinion, there has been more of an effort not to appear racist than not to appear sexist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1942363286851578110.post-19182696364964578662008-06-28T15:17:00.000-07:002008-06-28T15:17:00.000-07:00Obama needs a feminist on staff by his side to vet...Obama needs a feminist on staff by his side to vet all his speeches. He seems particularly tone deaf on feminist issues. Did he really think he was complimenting Clinton by marveling at her running for president in heels?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1942363286851578110.post-86368768199011938632008-06-28T09:36:00.000-07:002008-06-28T09:36:00.000-07:00Drew-I understand how you feel. Honestly, even I s...Drew-<BR/><BR/>I understand how you feel. Honestly, even I still have wounds that need to be healed. I flipped on MSNBC yesterday for the first time in MONTHS, and I was still enraged to see some of these pundits trash Hillary. All that old anger began springing out of me again.<BR/><BR/>But still, I'm at an Obama volunteer meeting right now. Why? While I'm still disappointed over all the sexist crap from the media and the failure of the DNC and the Obama campaign to fight it during primary season, I'm still hopeful that we'll see more progress happen on these fronts. I must admit that the more Obama & his supporters move to make amends, the more I'm starting to like him again. It's a slow process, but it's happening for me.<BR/><BR/>And hopefully, you and all other Clintonistas will experience this as well. That is, I hope Obama & his supporters start making amends with you and address the issues that you care about. This opportunity of making real change happen is just too important to squander. I hope Obama doesn't do that, but rather he proves to us Hillary Clinton Democrats that we have good reason to invest in this campaign.atdnexthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18339904136472258194noreply@blogger.com